Comments on: 2006 CES Report: First look at the Mindstorms NXT (Part 2) http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/ Covering the world of consumer and personal robotics Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:07:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: alerk http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3213 alerk Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:02:19 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-3213 hey if you wanna do a little demo of the software goto lego education.com and gotto mindstorms nxt it should be there hey if you wanna do a little demo of the software goto lego education.com and gotto mindstorms nxt it should be there

]]> By: haz http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 haz Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:49:13 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-1000 awesome awesome

]]> By: Kodanda http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-412 Kodanda Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:51:24 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-412 I was looking at the pictures of the new software and thinking what each part did and what kind of program was that. I understood all the other bricks, but what does that brick that has something like a monitor (lowest image on this page, lowest row, the one on the left) ? What does it do? Do you know? Did you see that program running? I was looking at the pictures of the new software and thinking what each part did and what kind of program was that. I understood all the other bricks, but what does that brick that has something like a monitor (lowest image on this page, lowest row, the one on the left) ? What does it do? Do you know? Did you see that program running?

]]> By: jasonhill http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-402 jasonhill Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:54:53 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-402 Joel (Senior Group Manager at National Instruments (developer of LabView)) seems to imply that the NXT brick will be open to meddling by other programing languages. http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=12950249&postID=113873571098273003 Joel (Senior Group Manager at National Instruments (developer of LabView)) seems to imply that the NXT brick will be open to meddling by other programing languages.

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]]> By: Rolf Kalbermatter http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-329 Rolf Kalbermatter Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:58:07 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-329 The software that comes with the NXT is based on LabVIEW but not the full package of LabVIEW. As has been told LabVIEW costs from $1200 up to $10000 and more and the makers would be crazy to include everything in the NXT software too. LabVIEW itself is a full programming environment and language and there is virtually nothing you can't do with LabVIEW if it can be done in a programming language at all. There are of course things where other programming environments are better suited but the limitations of LabVIEW itself are very few. I have created applications in LabVIEW that control entire manufacturing processes and lab experiment setups with several dozen substations some of them containing 2, 3, or 4 axis robots and several TCP/IP and serially controlled devices. As to if external code (shared libraries) nodes will be supported in the NXT software I have some doubts. Even if that would be the case it wouldn't be trivial to do. The new version of LabVIEW used in NXT does directly compile into binary code for the NXT CPU that then gets downloaded to the brick. Your external code shared library would be required to be compiled in the same way for the to me still unknown CPU architecture of the NXT. So you will need a compatible compiler tool chain for the NXT target (which probably will show up eventually unless LEGO has tried to completely lock the brick). The software that comes with the NXT is based on LabVIEW but not the full package of LabVIEW. As has been told LabVIEW costs from $1200 up to $10000 and more and the makers would be crazy to include everything in the NXT software too.

LabVIEW itself is a full programming environment and language and there is virtually nothing you can’t do with LabVIEW if it can be done in a programming language at all. There are of course things where other programming environments are better suited but the limitations of LabVIEW itself are very few. I have created applications in LabVIEW that control entire manufacturing processes and lab experiment setups with several dozen substations some of them containing 2, 3, or 4 axis robots and several TCP/IP and serially controlled devices.

As to if external code (shared libraries) nodes will be supported in the NXT software I have some doubts. Even if that would be the case it wouldn’t be trivial to do. The new version of LabVIEW used in NXT does directly compile into binary code for the NXT CPU that then gets downloaded to the brick. Your external code shared library would be required to be compiled in the same way for the to me still unknown CPU architecture of the NXT. So you will need a compatible compiler tool chain for the NXT target (which probably will show up eventually unless LEGO has tried to completely lock the brick).

]]> By: Dez Futak http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-224 Dez Futak Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:06:54 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-224 I'm interested to know how the programming environments will develop for the NXT, as what attracts me to the RCX are the number of different IDE's and commandline utilities available cross-platform. As a linux user, I'll be keeping my ears close to the ground about such equivalent developments for the NXT before considering purchasing... I’m interested to know how the programming environments will develop for the NXT, as what attracts me to the RCX are the number of different IDE’s and commandline utilities available cross-platform. As a linux user, I’ll be keeping my ears close to the ground about such equivalent developments for the NXT before considering purchasing…

]]> By: philippe::niquille » Blog Archive » LEGO nxt - the kid in me? http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-204 philippe::niquille » Blog Archive » LEGO nxt - the kid in me? Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:22:07 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-204 [...] update (6.2.06): This blog has tree great articles covering the Las Vegas nxt release (especially the comments). [...] [...] update (6.2.06): This blog has tree great articles covering the Las Vegas nxt release (especially the comments). [...]

]]> By: D. Amo http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-196 D. Amo Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:12:28 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-196 I have never used previous mindstorm products but have had my interest sparked by the NXT kit. LabView has the ability to call external code through a number of methods(Call Library node, in-line C node, .NET node, ect). Not sure how complex the version of LabView included with the kit can get. The inline C node makes the most sense because it can be easily compiled for any 32-bit embedded processor. Java or .NET would require a VM on the brick. I have signed up for the developer program, but chances are probably slim. I want to use a PDA with bluetooth (Microsoft stack - open source libraries available) to collect data from the ultrasound sensor for navigation and evironment mapping, or simply use it as a remote control. Hooking up a bluetooth (RFCOMM) GPS might be fun to try for outdoor navigation. I have never used previous mindstorm products but have had my interest sparked by the NXT kit. LabView has the ability to call external code through a number of methods(Call Library node, in-line C node, .NET node, ect). Not sure how complex the version of LabView included with the kit can get. The inline C node makes the most sense because it can be easily compiled for any 32-bit embedded processor. Java or .NET would require a VM on the brick.

I have signed up for the developer program, but chances are probably slim. I want to use a PDA with bluetooth (Microsoft stack – open source libraries available) to collect data from the ultrasound sensor for navigation and evironment mapping, or simply use it as a remote control. Hooking up a bluetooth (RFCOMM) GPS might be fun to try for outdoor navigation.

]]> By: Alex http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Alex Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:54:10 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-176 I have a RCX right now, and use Robolab, the educational software that is based on an earlier version of Labview. I hope that this new software for the NXT will be as easy if not easier. My only other worry is that the mac version of the software will be intel due to apples reinvented computers . Well, I only can wait I guess. I have a RCX right now, and use Robolab, the educational software that is based on an earlier version of Labview. I hope that this new software for the NXT will be as easy if not easier. My only other worry is that the mac version of the software will be intel due to apples reinvented computers . Well, I only can wait I guess.

]]> By: Kieran http://nxtbot.com/blog/2006/01/09/2006-ces-report-first-look-at-the-mindstorms-nxt-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Kieran Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:58:13 +0000 http://nxtbot.com/blog/?p=14#comment-153 I'm hopeing that soon after they release nxt they bring out a backward compatibility kit with adapters for old sensors and - most importantly a brick that can be placed infrount of the infer red port on the rcx compatible with boath types of comunication enableing 2 way comunication without making the nxt ugly. sory bout any spelling mistakes I’m hopeing that soon after they release nxt they bring out a backward compatibility kit with adapters for old sensors and – most importantly a brick that can be placed infrount of the infer red port on the rcx compatible with boath types of comunication enableing 2 way comunication without making the nxt ugly.
sory bout any spelling mistakes

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